Comments on: Are You Losing ClickBank Sales?

By: Jeff

Jeff — Sun, 03 Aug 2008 20:32:42 +0000

Have you ever registered a domain name and then redirect to mask it? If so, does this take care of the problem or do I need to use your ?type=nohop suggestion in conjunction with masking?

I tried this click bank a few years back and got discouraged just as you did. Gonna give it a go again, just want to be armed with the latest info on the crooks. I still don’t know why a merchant would try to short circuit there affiliates. Once their discouraged and quit promoting so does revenue from that affiliate.

Thanks for the help

By: SanAntonioBecky

SanAntonioBecky — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 19:00:18 +0000

You might also snag a copy of Michael Rasmussen’s Redirect Generator – it’s free.

http://www.ezau.com/latest/articles/0180.shtml

By: George

George — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 23:14:13 +0000

Are you using google adwords to advertise?
You got some pretty fast results

thanks

By: Steve

Steve — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 20:26:47 +0000

I believe that this is primarily a browser caching issue. I actually found this post because I was testing some of my existing hoplinks for a new ebook, and I found the dreaded [affiliate = none] on the order form some of the time. I could find no rhyme or reason or pattern to it.

Then I found this post and tried this method, but it didn’t solve my problem. I was still getting [affiliate = none] for some vendors.

Then I told IE to delete all my cookies and my temporary internet files. That did the trick. Now my affiliate ID shows up correctly.

My conclusion is that for some browsers under some circumstances, adding an extra parameter to the URL will force the browser to get new content rather than using its existing cache. It probably doesn’t matter what parameter you use. I don’t think there’s anything magic about “type=nohop”. I think it could be anything that causes the browser to get a new version of the page.

On the other hand, as I found, it doesn’t always work. It’s unfortunate, but I guess we just have to rely on specific conditions on the customer’s computer. If they’re not exactly right, we may not get credit for a sale.

By: Web Guru Walla

Web Guru Walla — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 16:07:04 +0000

One way to insure you get credit for any sale is to just make your own shopping cart and sell it then buy it for the client. Take a small hit on the fee and boom a sale is earned each time.

Is there someone in the TOS of ClickBank to stop someone from doing this?

Like using an Oscommerce store to sell each product you want to promote. So what if your not protected by the anti-fraud team.. duh it’s not that hard to protect.

Thoughts?

By: Harry

Harry — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 15:47:13 +0000

Hi,

K raises a very valid point.

As people becoming more security aware (and they will) they are more likely to be disabling cookies, as a routine.

Before reaching the affiliate page, maybe users should pass thru a “are cookies enabled” test, with appropriate instructions on how to turn them on, for Firefox IE etc.

Ok this wouldn’t resolve the problem completely, but its certainly better than not doing anything. I’m sure a suitable script could be obtained thru the Warrior forum.

Harry

By: k

Sun, 04 Nov 2007 09:19:58 +0000

The problem I’m concerning now is Spybot, you see.. the latest spybot has a feature called Teatimer and it will block clickbank affiliate pages to load. I’ve received complains from customers not able to see the page after they click on the affiliate links. It took us so long to find out what the problem was.. Ppl are getting more savvy these days and more and more ppl starting to use spyware programs to protect their pc… i hope the merchants can come out with a better tracking system rather than using outdated cookie system..

By: Harry

Harry — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 17:19:45 +0000

Hi,

As I understand it you are also exposed to ClickBank fraud when links (like this example) are shown in the browser address bar.

http://www.affiliateprojectx.com/index2.htm?hop=kidino

If I wanted to buy this product, could I not cut the hop=kidino part and still get through to the product site and make a purchase for which you would get no benefit?

Harry

By: Dennis Edell

Dennis Edell — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 15:54:58 +0000

I haven’t used CB yet, but this is in my faves for sure. Thanks!

By: Kang

Kang — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 15:25:56 +0000

I didn’t know there’s this “type” parameter.

Shall find out more about it.

Thanks! :)

By: Wayne

Wayne — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 14:27:07 +0000

Try this without using the type parameter. Clear
your cookies AND cache and then go through your hoplink
again and see your affiliate id should show on the
order page. Your browser will serve the page from
the cache if you have gone through this link
previously, depending on how many days you have
set in your settings to save your browser history.
If you clear your cookies in the meantime and go
back through your hoplink, the browser will serve
the page from the cache and your cookie will not be
created again.
I believe Clickbank has made some changes this year
to decrease your chances of losing sales.

By: Melvin Ng

Melvin Ng — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 13:16:17 +0000

Thanks for sharing. Have you experienced this with paydotcom? I just experienced the same thing with an affiliate link but I haven’t tested to see if its a browser problem though.

By: Kidino

Kidino — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 12:16:26 +0000

@Zul @Liz, frankly I am not sure what it is too. But from my initial understanding, it is to remove that ?hop=your_id in the URL when you arrive on the merchant’s site. That way, to the visitors, it doesn’t seem like an affiliate referred you. And you don’t lose your affiliate commission this way.

But I see that some merchants are also using type=XXXX to redirect to specific pages of the site. For example, a golf merchant has several other products like one for putting, one for driving, they tell affiliates to use type=XXXX to send traffic directly to those specific pages.

Check http://superiorgolfing.com/affiliate.php

I am not sure how those merchants are doing it but I am going to find out. But about this post, I see that my affiliate ID appears in the order page when I use ?type=nohop with my hoplink. And it doesn’t when I don’t.

@Dixie – yea, so far seems like it. Thanks.

By: Liz

Liz — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 09:33:05 +0000

I don’t understand as you have not explained this properly. What is the ?type for and how does it stop your commission being stolen?

By: Dixie

Dixie — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 09:06:23 +0000

It seems to me that Clickbank could devise a way of locking your affiliate link in after you set it up. I have heard of affiliate competitors stealing links to try and put you out of business, but I don’t quite understand how this works.
Sorry I happened to you, but it looks like you have it under control.
I haven’t had this happen yet, but will definately keep an eye on it. Thanks for the link tip.

By: zul

zul — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 07:42:02 +0000

so.. actually what does this /?type=nohop actually means?

oh yeah.. there are a few merchants that try to discredit their affiliates of sales.. so before you promote any CB products you should try clicking on your link and see on the order page whether there’s your cb id or not..

other thing, try opting into the merchant’s opt-in list and see whether he swipes your cb id with his or not..

By: Reny

Reny — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 06:07:16 +0000

I just started using clickbank and did some promoting. Had 1 sale and then nothing! This just might be the reason. Thanks.

By: Kidino

Kidino — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 06:06:26 +0000

This is not really a discussion about the TID, though. Remember … /?type=nohop — this makes all the difference.

By: Abi

Abi — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 05:58:04 +0000

Thanks a LOT MAN! No wonder my sales dropped all of a sudden even with the same traffic…!

By: Damian Pang

Damian Pang — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 05:55:28 +0000

Hi Kidino,
Adding the tid or type parameter does help in the case of Firefox.
But since ClickBank has implemented supplemental hoplink tracking, the chances of lost sales are significantly lower.

You can drop by our forum to find out more ways to prevent lost sales.

Cheers
Damian Pang
Moderator
ClickBankSuccessForum